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Post by Sugar on Oct 31, 2011 11:16:15 GMT -5
Hey guys! We were on the same tribe but I never talked to you guys =( so my vote is pretty much UP in the air right now.
So I guess what I want both of you to do is to tell me why I should NOT vote for the other person.
I want shit talking, I want you to talk ABSOLUTE smack about your f2 partner about why they are seriously the worst person to play this game and why they dont even deserve 1 vote.
Thank you <3
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Oct 31, 2011 13:10:53 GMT -5
Hey Sugar! I think we did talk once but it was really short and ultimately it was our different schedules that cost us a social time.
Monica doesnt deserve to win because shes driven by attention getting and was a very underhanded liar who was mean to people and I wasnt. I'm not gonna say anything bad about her as a person but she stole my immunity win at that live challenge and I wasnt happy about that and was gonna vote her out if I had to but she won several more in a row and I couldnt do that because she relied on protection. I still made the end with no votes against me despite only winning that last immunity challenge and I think Monica woulda got votes had she lost one of the challenges shed won. Monica used immunity protection to lie to people, even Kelly. I didnt lie to Kelly I told her I was undedcided between her and Elyse and I ultimately voted Kelly off because I didnt wanna take the easy way out. Monica saw lying as her way out and I didnt so I think my strive to keep it honest puts me above Monica the liar.
Monica isnt a bad person but I dont compleetly agree with how she played the game and I dont think she deserves a win because she lied compulsively while relying on immunity for protection and I dont think thats a worthy of a jurys respect. We would prolly be in the same position if Monica hadnt lied to Aaron or Kelly and maybe Nick but she lied to them all anyway. I didnt lie except when I had to and I hated doing it even when I did. It all comes down to an issue of morals and Monica abused them. She may have even been lying to me that shed take me to the final two and thats pretty obvs in her answers so I wsa right to question her trust even tho I wanted to trust her badly. Thats why she doesnt deserve to win. Nobody can trust her, not even her final two ally.
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Post by Monica Padilla on Oct 31, 2011 13:23:28 GMT -5
alol.
I have to go to class right now, but I will definitely be responding to those insultingly incorrect accusations as soon as I'm finished.
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Oct 31, 2011 13:27:00 GMT -5
I know several jurors arent to happy with you Mo and thats because you lied to them when you didnt hafta. You played like Russel. Admit it. I'm not insultingly incorrecting you thats how I saw how you played and I didnt like it.
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Post by Monica Padilla on Oct 31, 2011 14:24:29 GMT -5
Well, it may be how you saw it, but that doesn't mean that how you saw it is correct. Every single move that I made, I made under the belief that it was the best way to get our alliance to the end. If I hadn't done those things, neither of us would be here, and you certainly did your fair share of dirty deeds in this game.
I'm still in class. I'll have my full answer to you up soon, Sugar. <3
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Post by Monica Padilla on Oct 31, 2011 17:17:12 GMT -5
H'okay, let's get to the question.
For the record, I don't like doing this. I don't like to attack other people, because I'm a lover, not a fighter. But I'm also not gonna sit back and let Amanda trash me without responding, and Sugar asked for trash talk, so trash talk she shall have.
Sugar, I think there are several reasons why Amanda doesn't deserve to win this game over me.
For starters, there's the fact that I was more social to people. Even though I had other plans, I at least extended the courtesy of letting the people in this game know that I enjoyed their company. Amanda only talked to the people she wanted to use to get ahead. There's also the fact that I kicked her ass in the challenge department. Sure, she could have beaten me at the live challenge. Fact of the matter is I did outrank her in every other challenge, and never got worse than second place in any IC in the game.
In fact, if you look at this final tribal council, Amanda's only justification for why she should win is that she didn't tell lies or break alliances like I did. She never once says that she deserves to win because of what she did do in this game. Instead, she just makes up random stuff and insults me to make herself look better. Her argument isn't that "Amanda should win," it's that "Monica shouldnt' win." I haven't done that, (until right now, anyway) because I feel like my gameplay speaks for itself.
I think Amanda is also pretty hypocritical. She's talked a lot about how she played a loyal game, but she chose to ditch Judd because she didn't trust him, and in her answer above, she said that she was willing to vote me off, even though I was loyal to her. She also was originally planning to vote Elyse off before the final three because she felt like Elyse was too much of a threat. I may have done my fair share of sneakiness, but at least I own up to it. Plus, she wants to make it look like some big horrible thing that I made the moves I made, but she was right there supporting everything and benefitting from it, and couldn't have made the finals without that stuff, so it's stupid for her to claim now that she has some objection.
Amanda also played a pretty lousy social game. If there were people she didn't talk to, she didn't bother trying to talk to them, she just voted them off. Heck, I made the final two with her, and she obviously didn't pay attention to what I was doing. She thinks I lied to Kelly. Well, as a matter of fact, I didn't. I never once told Kelly I wasn't going to vote for her. I asked her if she had knew how other people were voting, but I never once said that I was taking her to the finals or that I was going to vote for Elyse. I did the exact same thing that she did, but she wants to call me a liar for it. Amanda, there's a phone call for you! It's a kettle. Turns out you're black.
Plus, it's pretty obvious she didn't even read my answer to Elyse. My entire point with that was that the last thing I wanted to do was betray her trust, but somehow her brain turned that into "Monica was going to betray me." I don't know how she reached that conclusion, but I do know that she showed up here drunk more than once, (something else I'd never do) so that might have something to do with it.
So, basically, Amanda doesn't deserve a vote because not even she can give a good reason for why she should beat me, other than "Monica lied to people," and even that reason is based on a bunch of stuff that she imagined without knowing the truth. Well, I'm sorry, Amanda, but everybody here signed up for Survivor. People lie. You did, Aaron did, I did. That's the game. I didn't lie to hurt people or to make them look silly, I did it because I honestly didn't see any other way around it. That's how the game is played. If you don't like it, stick to Monopoly.
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Oct 31, 2011 20:40:32 GMT -5
Learn to read. I've said many times that I played more honestly and more strategically then you did and you're just spewing bullshit to say that I'm not making a case for myself when I pretty clearly am. You're just being a bitch. About the Elyse thing that may be true but I realized I couldnt do that since I didnt have it in me. I also didnt wanna ditch Judd and tried to push for Sean but you wouldnt let me. I did what I had to.
You're acting pretty dumb tonight and you know it. Its pretty obvious that you're the one not reading anything.
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Post by Sugar on Oct 31, 2011 20:50:14 GMT -5
I love this :x
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Post by Monica Padilla on Oct 31, 2011 22:59:24 GMT -5
Learn to read. I've said many times that I played more honestly and more strategically then you did and you're just spewing bullshit to say that I'm not making a case for myself when I pretty clearly am. You said that you played more strategically, but you haven't given any actual examples or proof of that. Sure, you didn't get targetted, but that's not because you stopped them from targetting you, it's because your allies were out there making sure people didn't vote for you. You played more honestly, but that's because you didn't talk to people. That's not me spewing bullshit, that's just how I see it. Why is it okay for you to do "what you had to do" but it's not okay for me to do what I had to do? |
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Post by Elyse Umemoto on Nov 1, 2011 22:32:08 GMT -5
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